Friday, March 4, 2011

#129 - Pierre Turgeon

Pierre Turgeon (Murillo Pyramid Rank = #129)

Adjusted Stats

1987-1988   Buf         78 GP   12 goals   24 assists   36 points     0.46 PPG
1988-1989   Buf         82 GP   29 goals   46 assists   74 points     0.90 PPG
1989-1990   Buf         82 GP   34 goals   56 assists   91 points     1.11 PPG
1990-1991   Buf         80 GP   29 goals   43 assists   72 points     0.90 PPG
1991-1992   Buf/NYI 79 GP   36 goals   50 assists   86 points     1.09 PPG
1992-1993   NYI       81 GP   48 goals   61 assists   109 points   1.35 PPG
1993-1994   NYI       67 GP   35 goals   52 assists   87 points     1.29 PPG
1994-1995   NYI/Mtl  84 GP   42 goals   40 assists  83 points     0.99 PPG
1995-1996   Mtl         80 GP   37 goals   57 assists   94 points     1.17 PPG
1996-1997   Mtl/Stl    78 GP   27 goals   62 assists   90 points     1.15 PPG
1997-1998   Stl          60 GP   26 goals   54 assists   79 points     1.32 PPG
1998-1999   Stl          67 GP   36 goals   40 assists   76 points     1.13 PPG
1999-2000   Stl          52 GP   29 goals   45 assists   74 points     1.42 PPG
2000-2001   Stl          79 GP   33 goals   58 assists   92 points     1.16 PPG
2001-2002   Dal         66 GP   18 goals   38 assists   55 points     0.84 PPG
2002-2003   Dal         65 GP   14 goals   35 assists   49 points     0.75 PPG
2003-2004   Dal         76 GP   18 goals   30 assists   48 points     0.63 PPG
2005-2006   Col         62 GP   16 goals   30 assists   47 points     0.75 PPG
2006-2007   Col         17 GP   4 goals     3 assists     7 points       0.44 PPG

Adjusted Playoff Stats

1987-1988   Buf         6 GP     3 goals     2 assists     5 points       0.88 PPG
1988-1989   Buf         5 GP     3 goals     4 assists     7 points       1.37 PPG
1989-1990   Buf         6 GP     2 goals     3 assists     5 points       0.85 PPG
1990-1991   Buf         6 GP     3 goals     1 assist       3 points      0.57 PPG
1992-1993   NYI       11 GP   5 goals     6 assists     11 points     0.97 PPG
1993-1994   NYI       4 GP     0 goals     1 assist       1 point        0.25 PPG
1995-1996   Mtl         6 GP     2 goals     4 assists     6 points       0.96 PPG
1996-1997   Stl          5 GP     1 goal       1 assist      2 points       0.42 PPG
1997-1998   Stl          10 GP   4 goals     4 assists     9 points       0.89 PPG
1998-1999   Stl          13 GP   4 goals     10 assists   14 points     1.10 PPG
1999-2000   Stl           7 GP    0 goals     8 assists     8 points       1.20 PPG
2000-2001   Stl          15 GP   6 goals     12 assists   18 points     1.17 PPG
2002-2003   Dal         5 GP     0 goals      1 assist      1 point        0.24 PPG
2003-2004   Dal         5 GP     1 goal       4 assists    5 points       1.02 PPG
2005-2006   Col         5 GP     0 goals     2 assists    2 points       0.40 PPG

Career - 1335 GP, 523 goals, 824 assists, 1349 points, 1.01 PPG
Career-Highs - 48 goals (92-93); 62 assists (96-97); 109 points (92-93); 1.42 PPG (99-00)
Avg. (19 seasons) - 70 GP, 28 goals, 43 assists, 71 points, 1.01 PPG
Peak Avg. (89-97) - 79 GP, 36 goals, 53 assists, 89 points, 1.13 PPG, 0 Cups

Playoff Career - 109 GP, 34 goals, 63 assists, 97 points, 0.89 PPG
Playoff-Highs - 6 goals (00-01); 12 assists (00-01); 18 points (00-01); 1.37 PPG (88-89)

Accolades - Lady Byng
All-Star Teams - None
Never Won Stanley Cup

Exhibit A in the "lies, damn lies and statistics" argument, and also one of the main reasons I wanted to do a Pyramid like this: to distinguish between the players that mattered and those that didn't. Turgeon didn't, or at least not as much as his numbers would indicate. Here is a guy who sits 30th on the all-time scoring list, one of the preeminent Oh Yeah, That Guys in NHL history. Yet he is nowhere near any discussion of the best centers to play the game, and shouldn't be.

At first I assumed that Turgeon's numbers were inflated by playing in the late 80s and early 90s. A little, perhaps, but Turgeon also re-benefits by putting up some decent numbers in the trap era of the late-90s. From 1989 to 2001, he only averaged less than a point-a-game twice (and barely, too, at 0.90 and 0.99). Like Mats Sundin, he was consistently in the 80-90 point range, although Turgeon was actually more prolific than Sundin for a good chunk of his career.

Yet what is he remembered for most? For being the victim of Dale Hunter's hit in 1993. There aren't many, or any, classic Turgeon moments. He put up his points in the regular season with decent-to-mediocre teams, then usually watched as his teams were ousted in the first or second round. Turgeon wasn't a ghost in the playoffs, either...he has a respectable 97 points in 109 playoff games (not quite at his normal production level, but still decent).

It's not like Turgeon was the #1 center for lousy teams: in his eighteen-year career (I'm not counting the 19th season with the Avalanche), his teams made the playoffs fifteen times. The Sabres, Islanders and Blues were always in a state of semi-contention (although no one ever seriously believed they could challenge for the Cup). In 1993, the year the mediocre Canadiens team won the Cup, it was Turgeon's Islanders they defeated in the Conference finals. And in 1999-2000, the year the Blues won the Presidents Trophy, Turgeon had a remarkable 74 points in only 52 games (although Chris Pronger took home the MVP award).

So why despite his consistency and productivity is he ranked this low? For one thing, he was perceived as soft and not an all-around center by any means. He scored goals at an above-average rate, but he wasn't as elite at his defensive responsibilities. And in the middle of his prime, after being drafted 1st overall by the Buffalo Sabres, he was traded to the Islanders (albeit for Pat Lafontaine), then subsequently traded again to the Canadiens within three seasons and sent packing once more two years later to St. Louis.

Turgeon may have scored over a point a game for over 1300 career games, an incredibly impressive feat. But being traded twice in the span of six seasons and ending up playing for six franchises in your career gives an indication that all was not what it seemed with that production. At least with a Hawerchuk or a Sundin we associate them with certain franchises (the Jets and the Leafs). Turgeon on the other hand was always a traveling man. He may have been better than he is currently remembered (and by virtue of the Ciccarelli cutoff point, just barely able to squeak onto my Pyramid), but he was certainly less valuable than his gaudy point totals would suggest.

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